Last week we attended the press conference for The Ugly Truth with Gerard Butler and Katherine Heigl — needless to say there was a lot of talk about sex, how to get it, how to act once you get it, and what happens when you’re not getting it. It’s safe to say that Butler and Keigl are two very different types of actors, who are both associated with a very different type of genre. Yet thank god for Butler, whose dramatic-action background brought something refreshing to their otherwise re-hased movie and their possibly dull press conference.
Check it out below….
Gerard, the women have loved you for so long, even in the big male action films, like 300. Do you think you’re pushing your luck this time?
Gerard Butler: No, I don’t think I’m pushing my luck. Although that is something that I like to do, I don’t think I’m pushing it too far. There’s definitely a lot of me in the character, but I think it’s more about me just being boisterous and fun. I don’t expound those ideals, but I do think that there’s a lot of those values going on in both men and women, if we’re honest and frank about how we look at each other.
What do you think keeps it appealing without going over that edge?
Gerard: What’s cool in both of our characters is that, at the end of the day, we’re human. We’re real and we both have our vulnerabilities. So, there’s a lot of that going on under Mike’s armor, which is great. What’s so great about this movie is that it’s so ridiculous and shocking and surprising, the ways that I talk about sex, but at the end of the day, women get it and men get it too.
Katherine, did you dance that well before this movie, or did you have to practice for that scene?
Katherine Heigl: I think that looked so awesome because of the way they shot it. It was all just upper shots. They didn’t do any wide shots of us spinning around.
Gerard: I took a few lessons because I had no idea what I was doing. I actually had a lesson from Julianne Hough from Dancing with the Stars, and that took me a long way. But, Katherine was just on it, straight away, and that’s why it came alive. To be honest, if I was dancing with somebody who wasn’t that great, it would have been a disaster. Katie was on it, and I wasn’t. I had months to prepare and I still forgot my lines. But, then again, I had a lot to say. In my defense, I never fucking shut up, in this movie.
Katherine: What was so awesome was that he nailed every joke. It came off effortless, which is just awesome. It was super fun to watch.
How tough was it to get through some of the vulgar dialogue with each other?
Katherine: For me, I talk like that all the time, anyway. I try to actually rein that in, most of the time. That was just very freeing for me. I could just be me. But, I love raunchy humor. I just do. I don’t know why. I should probably get a little more sophisticated, but I just think it’s hilarious, and it’s what makes me laugh the hardest and the most. I’m just not terribly precious about that sort of stuff, unless you’re going really far. But, even then, it’s still funny.
Gerard, what made you want to play this character?
Gerard: I was in heaven. One of the main reasons I ended up doing this movie was that I was doing another movie — an action movie — where I play a very dark and brooding character. At night, I would go to dinner with the guys from Lakeshore, and I would tell dirty jokes and be vulgar, and they kept going, “The Ugly Truth.” I had never read the script and, finally, I read it and I went, “Okay, I get it.” The weird thing was that it took me a couple days to find my rhythm. The first day, playing the American accent and that kind of character, I was really nervous. I kept forgetting my lines. That wasn’t the only day I kept forgetting my lines. Every time I turned to Katie and had to play with her hair, I was so nervous. Once, I grabbed her breast. In the middle of the take, I said, “Did I just touch your breast?”
Katherine: He just went to put his hand down and it was one of those accidental brushes.
Gerard: It was a Mike Chadway move. I must have been pretty method. Every time I went to grab her hair, I forgot and it was ‘cause I was really pretty nervous about it. She’s such a charismatic woman.
Katherine, with Izzy being so well known on “Grey’s Anatomy,” do you look for characters that are totally unlike her, or do you see Abby as a cousin or a sexier, R-rated version?
Katherine: For Izzy, absolutely, I definitely want to go out and explore different personalities and different people. But, at the end of the day, I feel like, on television, it’s really hard to divorce me completely from the role. It’s nine months a year, it’s every day, sometimes it’s 80-hour weeks. The way I walk, talk and gesture is going to slip in there. I can’t completely remove that. And, I thought I maybe could for film, but I don’t think I can. I’m always going to show up in these roles. Something of me is always going to surface. They’re not Izzy, but I like the distant cousin analogy. I think it’s always going to be a little like that. That’s why I colored my hair. That will fool everybody.
What do you think this movie says about the battle of the sexes?
Katherine: I would hope that it’s an exaggeration of where men and women are at. I can’t speak for men because I haven’t really been around a lot of men who act like Mike Chadway. I’ve been around a lot of men who joke like Mike Chadway, but don’t actually believe that and, if they do, then they’re very good actors. I know, for me, Abby is only a small exaggeration of women now, or at least me and my friends. I went the whole make a list route. I’m a little OCD. I’m very particular about how I like things and how I want things. I get that, deeply. I don’t know. Maybe it is talking about the differences, but I think the most important part of the movie was talking about how, in spite of those difference you compromise. You don’t have to necessarily completely change who you are to be with someone that you want to be with, but you do have to compromise a little bit. You have to let go a little bit of yourself. There is just that fine line between desperate and honest.
Gerard: I think Katie is deeply flawed in her misunderstanding of the truth of what goes on in a lot of men’s minds. Either that or she knows a way more sophisticated breed of male than I am, which wouldn’t be difficult. We never know, as guys, what the hell women talk about when they go to the restroom. They always go to the restroom together. And, likewise, women never really know how guys really think, and I think this is the first movie that really brings it up and strikes at the heart of it. I know I’m going out on a limb here and ending my career, but it is almost impossible for a guy not to say, “You know what? There are times when I just turn around and look at an ass.” We do that. We’re much more complicated than that, as well. What’s beautiful and where the redemption is in the movie is that, at the end of the day, through our games and our weaknesses and our flaws, we’re after the same thing. We all want a partner. We all want companionship. We’re all beautiful and all over the place, and it comes together really well. I think the battle of the sexes is the battle of the audiences, in this movie, because it’s so great. It really expounds both values. When this stuff is thrown out there, it’s so shocking and unexpected, but the guys are like, “Oh, thank God somebody said that,” and the women are like, “You know what? I knew it!” That’s why it’s a huge relief that this stuff is put out there. The way we’ve played with sexual attraction is great. This script was so phenomenal. It wasn’t hard to just climb into this and do it. It was just there.
Katherine: It was super funny on the page, too.
Can you talk about the success of R-rated comedies?
Katherine: I actually have a really strong opinion about this. I’m a 30-year-old woman and, as much as I love that younger audience and I love those kind of movies, and I loved 27 Dresses and had a great time making it, I still feel like I want to tell a real story to people my age and to my generation. We throw “fuck” around a lot, so when you have to censor so much for that PG-13 rating, it starts to get a little cute and it starts to feel a little fantasy. Yes, all romantic comedies have that element of fantasy, but the thing I love most about this movie is that they do end up together. Who knows if they end up happily ever after together, but they do end up together and it doesn’t feel like the fantasy. It felt like real life. It felt like two people, who actually were really sexually attracted to one another, and then, ultimately, emotionally attracted to one another, came together in a world that is a grown up’s world and not the cartoon version. It’s not that I always want to do R-rated movies, or that I feel like they’re the most honest movies out there. There was just something about this and the ability to be crass, and drop the F-bomb on occasion, and the ability to say “cock,” that felt real to me. It felt like the world I actually live in with my friends and my family.
Katherine, you’re now married…
Gerard: Alright, alright…
Katherine: Yeah, who are you dating?
The question is what is in this movie might help people in their dating life, that you guys have discovered though working on this film?
Gerard: You answer?
Katherine: She’s asking you!
Gerard: No she didn’t! She asked both of us! See it’s okay for you, because you’re married, but everyone is like “alright Gerry, so like Mike aren’t ya?”
I’m not saying you’re like Mike.
Gerard: I know you’re not, (joking) but I know that’s what you’re saying underneath… (laughs)
Should women call if they don’t call us back?
Katherine: No. Right?
Katherine: Would you want a woman to call you not once, but twice if you haven’t returned her call?
Gerard: Yea. I’m busy!
Katherine: That’s exactly why you shouldn’t call back. (Everyone laughs.)
Gerard: This is why it’s called the ugly truth; this is the element of truth in that, the second that you think the girl is maybe not quite as keen as a little more, ‘Oh Okay, okay,’ and sometimes when it’s there right in front of you, it’s not as interesting, again, is that right? Please point out that they nodded when I said that.
Katherine: It’s true for women too, isn’t it? If you have a guy who’s just relentless and like obviously so into it and sort of puppy do at your feet, it’s not actually as sexy and as interesting as the guy who plays it a little cool. I talk to Josh about this all the time because I’ve waited, the next day I waited ’til three o’ clock, I think that’s pretty good. But I didn’t wait for him to call me I waited ’til three and then I went, “Screw it, I’m going to call him.” Be honest with somebody about your intentions and how you feel about them.
Gerard: By the way, this is the difference between the way a guy thinks and a girl thinks — when she said “I waited until three o’ clock, to call him back,” I thought you were going to say,” I waited ’til three o’ clock before I got out of bed with him.” (Laughs)
Is it true that there were 35 takes before you got the dinner scene/orgasm scene right?
Katherine: Well, now hold on. It didn’t take 35 to get it right. 35 set-ups to film the scene…. And let me tell you ladies, these were fake orgasms, but…
Gerard: They were?
Katherine: I’m very method–(Laughs). But it was physically exhausting because it was so much physical movement and you know, lights dancing under the table, and all the tensing up the body, by the end of the day I felt like I had done a marathon..
Gerard: No matter how well this movie does, that scene is going down in the comedy-history because it’s just a classic scene, I mean I haven’t met many people that don’t love it, that’s why when you said 35 takes together, I nodded all, it was one of the most brilliant performances that I’ve ever seen, she was so bang-on (laughs) and I watched it again last night, you sometimes — it was amazing, it was perfection.
What is the number one secret for happiness?
Katherine: Oh Jesus, I don’t know — Vodka, yeah.
Gerard: One of those vibrating things–
Katherine: No, that thing is crappy.
G: That number one secret for happiness, it’s funny that’s why I love the very beginning of the movie where I’m like, ‘Women who love men, who hate them blah, blah, blah,’ you would describe it as psycho-babble bullshit. Everybody asks, ‘So what’s your secret to a relationship and what’s your secret to happiness,’ and I go, ‘I don’t fucking know, I’m not doctor Phil, I have no idea.’
You didn’t fully embrace the R-rating in sight, but only in language.
Katherine: He wants to know why there were no boobs.
Gerard: I don’t think you needed it, I think you had it in the language. If there’s one thing that’s classy about the movie it’s that. No, the ideas and the values and they are so cleaver and so kind of controversial and unexpected and surprising and hard-hitting that you don’t need to see tits and vaginas — You know it’s not necessary, there’s enough going on. This movie is so hilarious it works from the guys perspective, you have a pretty strong reaction to both sides of the coin, and I think the rest of it would have been kind of gratuitous.
Gerard, when you had to do a scene with Craig Ferguson was it hard not to let your accent slip out?
Gerard: I love Craig, but even saying the word Craig was big thing because I was told it was k-r-e-g and I went, no it’s not it’s “Craig!” Then of course, you hear him, ‘Alright Gerry how’s it going, haven’t seen you for a while,’ and trying to keep my American accent was hard. I’m actually going on his show tonight and he plays my best friend in a Dream-Works movie I’m doing right now called, How To Train You’re Dragon. Normally that would sound way more innocent than it sounds, it’s a Dream Works animated movie, for kids –(Laughs) Or maybe it isn’t, it might be a huge con– I had a great time doing that scene, but it was a challenge.
Check out The Ugly Truth in theaters this July 24th. Check out the trailer below….